Band · Tampa
Red and Black
My first punk band
Red and Black was my first band, and I was the drummer. Daniel Wainright sang and Lincoln Kinnicutt played guitar. For a while we had no bass player at all. Todd Kinsey played bass until May 1987, when he left for college. Linc came back after the summer break, but Todd didn’t, and Steve Shirey joined on bass.
The first recordings were made on a boombox in 1986. In late 1987, with Steve on bass, we recorded five songs at Apollo Sound in Apollo Beach, Florida: “Train,” “PPP,” “In Your Veins,” “Redbone” and “Sonic Life.” All five went on a demo cassette called Kill The Clown, along with multiple takes of songs we’d recorded on a boombox in the garage. More punk than we all deserved.
By the middle of 1988 we were already doing Idle Rood. Daniel played synths in Idle Rood that year.
Recordings
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Boombox recordings
demo -
Kill The Clown
demo- Train
- PPP (Philadelphia Pepper Pot)
- In Your Veins
- Redbone
- Sonic Life
Five songs recorded at Apollo Sound in late 1987, plus multiple takes of songs recorded on a boombox in the garage. Every song is on the Red and Black SoundCloud.
- Studio
- Apollo Sound, Apollo Beach, Florida
Listen
Shows
- Mon, Jun 8, 1987 With B.O.S., Chances, TampaAll ages, $5.50 at the door. A Leather Nun Production.
Flyers & photos

Chances, Tampa, June 8, 1987 
Live at Chances, with Todd on bass. Photo by Laura Shacklett 
Band poster with the Todd lineup, 1986–87